FST vs. TimberTek vs. LFT – Exploring the Tomo Evo from the inside (and the Sci-fi, Omni and more)

FST vs. TimberTek vs. LFT – Exploring the Tomo Evo from the inside (and the Sci-fi, Omni and more)


welcome to the wire i’m chris here is an EVO built-in TIMBERTEK the same evo built-in linear flex technology and the evo again built in future shapes technology the same shape built in three different firewire techs which is best for your surfing that’s what we’ll cover today for starters will cut a section out of each surfboard so that we can see the differences in how each firewire technology is built but before we get to that FST and TIMBERTEK are the most dangerous resistance and robust against deck compressions they’re also the least likely to break in powerful surf lft is also durable but it’s designed to develop footwells on the deck for surfers who prefer center stringers but want to explore composite material performance now let’s explore FST this firewire tech uses a very light eps foam core in between balsa wood rails that give FST its well-known wooden rail look in surf shops the wood extends 12 millimeters into the core of the surfboard on each rail to give outstanding protection against trail things and control the flecks of the surfboard the deck is supported by aerospace composite deck skins that extend the life of the surfboard by preventing dents from your feet knees elbows and other stuff now it’s important to notice that when you cut timbertech in half you can see that it looks the same but it uses Polonia would as a deck skin instead of aerospace composite and it brings that Polonia wood into the rails instead of balsa wood now this means that in addition to the epoxy bio resins that have earned firewire eco board certification across all of the surfboards that we make TIMBERTEK surfboards have been certified gold level eco board certification because it uses the natural properties of polonia would to control flex and add strength to the board ok finally lft this is firewires vision for what a center stringer board is capable become it uses the same high-density deck skin material found in FST boards but it places that material down the center of a slightly denser phone blank for strength and flexin troll because lft does not use wood in the rails as a stringer in the way that FST and to protect do also if you look on the deck very closely you’ll see that lft it uses a much thinner deck skin so that the top of the board gets some foot impressions in it for surfers who are seeking that so which firewire technology will you have the most fun surfing click the link below to check out a demo day near you where this van will pull up and layout surfboards for the whole morning that you can surf for free you can also consider that when it comes to wait timbertech is around six pounds lft is lighter at about five and a half pounds finally FST is the lightest at around five and a quarter pounds now if you’re surfing is sensitive to the way that boards flex beneath your feet remember that FST has a torsional flex for spring out of terms which is why Michel Bourez likes it lft has the neutral flex you’d expect from a center stringer but with a quicker rebound this is a favorite of daniel thompson who you see surfing and omni in lft finally timbertech feels the stiffest beneath your surfing stance which we can see Rob Machado feeling here lastly if you’re into data in science you’ll find the analytics behind how each firewire technology relates to each other and other surfboards in the link below and I’ll leave that to you and in the meantime what’s your favorite what boards are you writing what constructions do you like best tell us in the YouTube comments down below thank you so much for watching if you want to put your finger on the pulse of all things firewire you can join the wire it’s our all-access entrance to video projects behind-the-scenes everything to do with Slater designs tomo surfboards environmental initiatives that were involved in and so many other things you can jump on board by clicking the link down beneath this video to join the wire

59 comments

  • A

    Was literally looking everywhere for a detailed video on this all week! Perfect timing! For sure getting the sci fi now that I understand LFT better

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  • Cortland Travis

    When does the fst and tt come available in surf shops in ventura county California

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  • Deforest L. Cooper

    Awesome video. I was just thinking to myself "I wonder how those TT and FST Evo's compare to my LFT Evo"? 🤔. You just answered that question! Thanks for the video! 👌🏼😎

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  • thomas_25

    Chris Grow from Shred Show! what upppp? yew braddah stoked for ya

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  • Tony Wong

    I love FST, found that RF are super weak, TT isnt bad but usually have some cracks or split of wood when used for long. Havent tried LFT but looks weaker then FST.

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  • Simon 4216

    nice Shred Show flavour to FireWire ….they are lucky to have you bring your magic to their wizard company

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  • ingoFX

    Good video… I've gone through about 13 or so boards in the last 11 months, all but 2 were Firewire, and found by far my favorite construction to be FST. Currently have 8 boards on my rack, 4 of which are Firewire – all FST. Tried RF, LFT, TT and of course FST. RF seemed very similar to LFT (but with carbon rods instead of the springer?), both techs dinged too easily for me, though still OK, just prefer the durability of FST. TT on the other hand, I had a bad experience with and would find it hard to trust again, as it was constantly getting splits along the grain for such minor things PU boards wouldn't ding over… was in for repairs more than it was in the water.

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  • Ho Stevie!

    Sup fam

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  • Paul Hogan

    Thanks, very informative, i am currently riding the omni, plus an old favourite, the jacknife in FST, the 7'6"Seaxe and two flex flight longboards in timbertek. Durability wise the timbertek rules for me, followed by the FST.
    I find the 7'6" Seaxe at 3" thick ideal but i have yet to find a fin setup i am happy with. Any feedback from you or others appreciated.

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  • Sunny Goold

    Awesome – this helps me work out what sort of board to get to go with my Vanguard on a trip to the Mentawais – great stuff

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  • wayne wood

    Great informative video! You really nail these clips. Have a Evo LFT. Would have been great to look at other options of the Evo, but i have not seen those other versions in Australia? Thanks again for such interesting approaches of presenting that you do Chris.

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  • Mike Eaton

    You didn't comment on it, but I picked up on something from the cut-away. They have figured out a way to do something I have had various ideas about for a long time, but their idea is better and more advanced than Mine. Namely, they have the stringer below the surface of the deck, allowing for the foam to get crushed down, without causing it to crack along the stringer, like what happens with typical surfboards. This aids in not getting water intrusion through the cracks and prevents delaminization of the deck from the foarm. — Briliant!

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  • Glassy Bouys

    Have a 5'5 evo- LFT. Got it last July and for 6 months it felt like the best board I've ever had. From 2-5 foot all types of waves it was the bomb. Only problem, it doesn't now. It feels like it lost its 'pop' very quickly. I felt the same thing happened with a sweet potato (rapid fire) . Both boards felt great for a period then almost lost their response within a few surfs. Not sure if this is a common concern?

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  • Fantxo Applagnat

    I prefer FST because it is stronger lighter and no dings on the deck

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  • nikel Ooo

    Nicely done, as usual! Among the many other reasons, one can clearly see why you are gold for a company like FireWire. Your approach on surf reviews "was made" to decode and enhance the prime tech and craft of their surfboards!Win/win situation!… CheersRui

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  • george petrofski

    6'6 Timber Submoon.

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  • ronald roodhart

    Yes a The EVO IN FST !!!!!! can't wait to buy it. and now the VADER in FST !!!!

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  • Rigel Wilder

    Great video Chris. Once again you provided an excellent explanation on a topic we all had questions about. Keep up the good work!

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  • Valdo van Zyl

    I've felt FST has the most of that "corky" feel that you get with EPS foams. Both boards I've had in FST also had big compressions on the deck where my front foot goes. The only thing i found to reduce that corky feel was to go down in volume a fair bit but then sacrificing paddle power. This took me back to PU boards. Not sure if LFT would feel closer to a PU board? The only thing that's drawing me to back alternative technologies is the retention of flex over time compared to PU boards but then the buoyancy needs to feel similar to PU. Can't have it all I guess…

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  • Ronen Moshkovich

    TT look is the best

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  • Stephen Kizel

    Keep on kickin' ass Chris, loved shred show now lovin' da wire!

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  • Guy Katz

    so shred show guy is in FW marketing now?

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  • Greg Saggers

    good info, FST da bess.strong, light, durable, springy, make all models in this its da bess, i would buy um all and i can take it out in all conditions knowing theres gonna be performance and its not gonna break, aloha, g

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  • Swee Yong

    i can pop up easy and apadpt and learn fast. still learning to ride the face go let and go right. still learning bottom turns. i weigh 66kg. ideally should be around 62 63 kg. ht 165cm. fit and good stamina. surf mainly kuta bali and gerupuk bay lombok 4 times a year if lucky. but when i am out i am in the water morning till sunset or until my arms fall off or when the wife says shes had enough. want something small with bit of performance to develop on. no sharp points so i dont poke others in the water or myself. small enuf with sufficient volume to get in easily and paddle out. something that looks good design wise and functional. hang on my living room wall. easily carry on planes. is durable. dont want to be lugging around a mini mal or renting something i cant call mine. other surfboard dont look as good. i am in love with the evo's design and want an evo fst or tt. where do i get me one. will a 5'8 suit me? call me stupid but i just want the one board that i can accomplish 80% of my surfing on. i am not a die hard surfer looking to do airs anytime soon or riding waves i cant handle under the water.

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  • Indo Surfer

    I love board science. This video gives me all i need to know. Off to fiji Thursday to try out my new LFT sci phi. Keep up the good work guys.

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  • Peter Graciano

    i ride a stringer board but i really want a timber tech

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  • federico aka voxa on the road

    TT

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  • Olaf Henke

    well, 2.9 kg for a PU construction is a lot. I asume that board is something like 5'10? Any pro poly glasser could take it to 2.6 if not below with a light foam blank.
    I miss your show Chris. I hope they r treating you well.

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  • Rotten Arm Rob

    How does LFT strength compare to the original RapidFire boards (wood deck)? I've never even dinged any of my FST boards, yet I've snapped clean through two RapidFires…so I'm very wary of switching to LFT considering how much money RF cost me.

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  • MaxTheSurfGod

    I have one of the early LFT Baked Potatoes and it's waaaay stronger than any of the more recent LFT boards I've had. I've surfed it for years now and the deck is still dent free when I remove the wax. Bought an LFT Evo a while back and had foot/knee dents after a single session.

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  • knarzt

    I've got a TT Evo, and have been loving it. Even more so seeing that the FST version shown is a prototype, not heading to shops, etc.

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  • Yusuke Kimura

    2 questions. why can't we just order boards directly from firewire and is it possible to have an evo in fst

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  • Jack Farnell

    I have a sci fi

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  • Indo Bule

    love FST and Timber tek.

    But i do like foot wells that mould to your feet, would love a board with LFT deck skin and FST bottom that would be an awesome combo.

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  • samsstreets

    Awesome video. I have a question. Almost everyone on forums etc who rides Firewire seems to prefer FST construction followed by TT so why is it that so many models are only made in LFT? I hear so many people saying they would be sure to buy certain models if they were available in FST or TT. Why then, do Firewire release their most popular models in their least popular tech?

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  • Leo B

    Men never stop doing this is so helpful. cheers keep it up!

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  • cem sicles

    Sucks that we dont get to hear you talk about other brands as much dude.. your reviews are the bomb.

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  • Bajapalm

    I have all three – Timbertek is such a strong board. Great for traveling. And… where did you get an LFT Evo??? must be only for insiders huh?

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  • Trim Bandit

    So there is an Evo in FST????

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  • Jake Maier

    I'm just curious. How do the deck skins yellow compared to a poly surfboard?

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  • Big Vinny

    I'm riding a Lost Round Nose Fish in TimberTek, loving it, fist FireWire, first fish, would love to get few waves on the Sci Fi

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  • heath.luke69

    Loving the Tomo shape HOWEVER a lot of people have said they won't part with the cash until they come in FST!!!

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  • Doug Clark

    Good morning FireWire,A quick question 4U,& then some.Purcahased a
    6'2"Omni for the Winter here in NJ.Yes NJ,& we do get good surf, Especially in the WINTER.Thusly, I chose a 6'2" Omni.Thinking that 6'2" was going 2b
    2sm, Being a solid200 lbs,w/all the winter gear:5mm gloves & booties;RipCurl Flashbomb Technology.Works well 4 my cold needs in the NE.
    Anyway I find that my 6'2" Omni works rather well in the more powerful surf& not as well in smaller, weaker surf.I also feel that I could go a bit shorter6'0" or maybe even 5'10 for a " better fit"+ a loss of 10+ lbs.Unless your coming out w/a
    groveler???
    Thanks…
    DC/CNJ👍

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  • Lexusroosevelt

    Chris! Shred Show was my favorite board review video and I'm happy you got this great Gig, but please don't forget to keep it fun, wacky and light! There may be pressure to keep it more professional and talk slower and not be as wacky, but that's what made Shred Show so great. Keep it Funny and loose! Not over produced and scripted! That said, I found the video informative and look forward to more, but hope they let you loosen up. My friends been raving about the Evo as LFT. Can't wait to borrow his. Also, I'd love to hear where this stuff falls spec (flex and weight) Vs. a classic PU board.

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  • Garrett McKeen

    Question: Why has Machado decided to go with LFT for the Go Fish after using solely TimberTek for the Creeper and Almond Butter?

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  • Deezy

    We need almond butter in fst??? I'm waiting

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  • bigoté

    Why dont you use balsawood  on the deck as well?

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  • Jack Schreuder

    FST Hashtag the perfect one board quiver chuck a quad in it and it eats barrels for breakfast

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  • claude waledisch

    Love my 4'10 Vader FST

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  • Amanda McNay

    can i order a baked potato in LFT? i haven't seen on in any shops in florida

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  • 79pejeperro

    7'0 AddVance and 5'10 Greedy Beaver here. TT. Because I like it.

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  • onespeed

    How does helium compare to these three, is it more durable?

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  • MOTOKITER71

    When r u going to explain the Helium Tech compared just like this vid __ Thanks

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  • dogzballz

    I want my next board's blank to be made of aussie yellow cake uranium with mercury tinted resin .the flex will be sick .

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  • Ollie Jackson

    Timbertek… Damm Sexy…

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  • Joe Porcello

    Locally handshaped boards i definitely prefer. But these guys are makin waves…

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  • aminor1950

    I want a pointy nose!

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  • Top Shelf

    How to repair dings on my fire wire
    ?

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  • Jonathan Powell

    I just bought a FireWire cymatic in the LFT construction. I noticed small indentions on the stringer on the bottom. Barely noticeable but if you run your hands down the board you can feel slight indentions. The occur about every 2-1/2” and run almost the entire length of the board. I don’t think it’ll make a difference in riding🤞. Have you seen or heard of this before

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